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		<title>By: Was Christ Forced into Family Business? &#124; marketplace christianity</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-3524</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1640</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yorgos - I love your thoughts here, and your passion for creating meaningful work on this earth as equally important to the eternal life. This is a perspective that is never heard among Christians - the idea that our &quot;work&quot; or &quot;works&quot; will actually be brought into the new kingdom of heaven? Like you say, I can&#039;t imagine a kingdom or city without work or high culture. So why not also in the City of God? 

Some say the answer to the question of &quot;what will we do all day in heaven?&quot; is that we will be praising God day and night. Well, that is hard to imagine, too. I like your view that we will be praising God through our work, creations, and culture that will be complete in its heavenly perfection. 

Thanks for a truly inspiring comment!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yorgos &#8211; I love your thoughts here, and your passion for creating meaningful work on this earth as equally important to the eternal life. This is a perspective that is never heard among Christians &#8211; the idea that our &#8220;work&#8221; or &#8220;works&#8221; will actually be brought into the new kingdom of heaven? Like you say, I can&#8217;t imagine a kingdom or city without work or high culture. So why not also in the City of God? </p>
<p>Some say the answer to the question of &#8220;what will we do all day in heaven?&#8221; is that we will be praising God day and night. Well, that is hard to imagine, too. I like your view that we will be praising God through our work, creations, and culture that will be complete in its heavenly perfection. </p>
<p>Thanks for a truly inspiring comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Yorgos from the Old Greek church</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Im an Eastern Orthodox christian and would like to add not only is calling in secular field a full time holy thing from God but that all the work you do will be brought into His Kingdom.  We are building His civilization. Right now we have to overcome through Christ --the sin of the world but that doesnt mean the buidling doesnt continue.  And I don&#039;t mean your work will only or merely be remembered in the Kingdom, rather it will be brought into the Kingdom in a very real and  metaphysical way.  The City will descend from above. Cities are places of work and high culture.  Shakespeare&#039;s works will be there and the innovation your company made will be there. People ask how?  I will leave that up to the Lord but notice in the Garden Adam and Eve started with no tools etc but in Revelation  the Garden is found (tree of life) in the City.  

I say the above because many wrong minded folks say &quot;well only if you bring a man into salvation--only that will last since his soul is eternal and your &#039;work&#039; (the saved man) will last&quot; Everything else will burn up as it says in Peter.  But in the Greek the word is &quot;revealed&quot; or &quot;exposed&quot;.  Your works in all of reality will be added to His Kingdom even if they are works that &quot;fade&quot; -- a chef build a glorious wedding cake.  In the Kingdom all will be brought back mysteriously added to His Civilization just like new cells are added to a growing body as a young person grows up into maturity so your works are grafted into His Body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Im an Eastern Orthodox christian and would like to add not only is calling in secular field a full time holy thing from God but that all the work you do will be brought into His Kingdom.  We are building His civilization. Right now we have to overcome through Christ &#8211;the sin of the world but that doesnt mean the buidling doesnt continue.  And I don&#8217;t mean your work will only or merely be remembered in the Kingdom, rather it will be brought into the Kingdom in a very real and  metaphysical way.  The City will descend from above. Cities are places of work and high culture.  Shakespeare&#8217;s works will be there and the innovation your company made will be there. People ask how?  I will leave that up to the Lord but notice in the Garden Adam and Eve started with no tools etc but in Revelation  the Garden is found (tree of life) in the City.  </p>
<p>I say the above because many wrong minded folks say &#8220;well only if you bring a man into salvation&#8211;only that will last since his soul is eternal and your &#8216;work&#8217; (the saved man) will last&#8221; Everything else will burn up as it says in Peter.  But in the Greek the word is &#8220;revealed&#8221; or &#8220;exposed&#8221;.  Your works in all of reality will be added to His Kingdom even if they are works that &#8220;fade&#8221; &#8212; a chef build a glorious wedding cake.  In the Kingdom all will be brought back mysteriously added to His Civilization just like new cells are added to a growing body as a young person grows up into maturity so your works are grafted into His Body.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1579</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool! I&#039;m there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I&#8217;m there!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Harmon</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Harmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bradley,

Your response really made me think, and I agree that this topic is worth a lot more discussion.  

I turned our comments into a post today on my blog.  Check it out and let me know what you think.

The name of the post is &quot;Was Christ Forced into the Family Business?&quot;

Brad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradley,</p>
<p>Your response really made me think, and I agree that this topic is worth a lot more discussion.  </p>
<p>I turned our comments into a post today on my blog.  Check it out and let me know what you think.</p>
<p>The name of the post is &#8220;Was Christ Forced into the Family Business?&#8221;</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1496</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad (great name, btw), I think you are on to something with that idea of &quot;calling.&quot; I intend to write something on that sometime, as it has been on my mind for a while. We happen to live in a society where, for the most part, we have the freedom to choose our vocation as opposed to just doing whatever we were born into (for better or worse). I don&#039;t think Peter or Jesus got to choose their jobs - they just did what their dads did, and their dads before them, etc. For all we know, the fishermen HATED their work, which is why they rushed off so quickly to follow Jesus that day. Much more exciting prospects to be had there, right?

This idea of &quot;calling&quot; seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon, and therefore creates a new set of problems/opportunities when we look at it through a Christian lens. There are too many choices, maybe. Or, perhaps we don&#039;t get the good breaks in life. Or, we are not aggressive enough in pursuing what we want. Or, we get our dream job and we hate it.... Or, we find it and we love it and live out a sense of God&#039;s purpose for our work lives.

Good thoughts, worth a lot more discussion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad (great name, btw), I think you are on to something with that idea of &#8220;calling.&#8221; I intend to write something on that sometime, as it has been on my mind for a while. We happen to live in a society where, for the most part, we have the freedom to choose our vocation as opposed to just doing whatever we were born into (for better or worse). I don&#8217;t think Peter or Jesus got to choose their jobs &#8211; they just did what their dads did, and their dads before them, etc. For all we know, the fishermen HATED their work, which is why they rushed off so quickly to follow Jesus that day. Much more exciting prospects to be had there, right?</p>
<p>This idea of &#8220;calling&#8221; seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon, and therefore creates a new set of problems/opportunities when we look at it through a Christian lens. There are too many choices, maybe. Or, perhaps we don&#8217;t get the good breaks in life. Or, we are not aggressive enough in pursuing what we want. Or, we get our dream job and we hate it&#8230;. Or, we find it and we love it and live out a sense of God&#8217;s purpose for our work lives.</p>
<p>Good thoughts, worth a lot more discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Harmon</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Harmon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bradley,

I wonder why so many Christians feel like they check their Christianity at the door when they head off to work.  Do you think it is that they do not believe God has a place in their work life?

Perhaps it is because they are not in the career in which God called them?  It is interesting that most of us forget that before their ministries began Christ was called to be a carpenter, Peter was called to be a fisherman, and Paul was called to be a tent maker.  

Although they were later called into full-time ministry as their vocation, most of us are not.  Yes, we are all called to be ambassadors of Christ, but we are also called to our vocations.  

I wonder why so many do not realize their calling or choose not to follow it?  

What do you think?

Brad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradley,</p>
<p>I wonder why so many Christians feel like they check their Christianity at the door when they head off to work.  Do you think it is that they do not believe God has a place in their work life?</p>
<p>Perhaps it is because they are not in the career in which God called them?  It is interesting that most of us forget that before their ministries began Christ was called to be a carpenter, Peter was called to be a fisherman, and Paul was called to be a tent maker.  </p>
<p>Although they were later called into full-time ministry as their vocation, most of us are not.  Yes, we are all called to be ambassadors of Christ, but we are also called to our vocations.  </p>
<p>I wonder why so many do not realize their calling or choose not to follow it?  </p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Goodyear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus Goodyear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incredible assessment. If anything, the Catholic survey revealed the real need to have someone address this issue. Why do we have such trouble connecting our work and our faith?

Is it the way we approach work? Is it the way we approach faith? Is it both?

Bradley, you are one of my personal heroes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible assessment. If anything, the Catholic survey revealed the real need to have someone address this issue. Why do we have such trouble connecting our work and our faith?</p>
<p>Is it the way we approach work? Is it the way we approach faith? Is it both?</p>
<p>Bradley, you are one of my personal heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: e. barrett</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[e. barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The church I go to has had messages in the past saying that &quot;God doesn&#039;t call people just into the mission field&quot;.  The point being that if the only calling a Christian could get was to be a professional ministry person, there wouldn&#039;t be a lot of job opportunities!

Sometimes staying where you are, or working in the mail room, board room, or some other room, is exactly where God wants you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church I go to has had messages in the past saying that &#8220;God doesn&#8217;t call people just into the mission field&#8221;.  The point being that if the only calling a Christian could get was to be a professional ministry person, there wouldn&#8217;t be a lot of job opportunities!</p>
<p>Sometimes staying where you are, or working in the mail room, board room, or some other room, is exactly where God wants you.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/09/07/81-of-catholics-believe-their-work-is-a-calling-from-god/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrinkingthecamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb- What a great question! And, yes, I do plan to write about this more in the future. The quick answer (for now, anyway!) is that I see God at work through me in my job by:

1) Being aware of my strengths and acknowledging the gifts and talents  I have come from God 

2) Conscious awareness of directing those gifts and talents for His glory, whatever the outcome of the use of those gifts

3) Integrating in my work a sense of Helping people around me rather than achieving my own ego-driven goals and ambitions - THis alone is a big discussion to be had.  THis involves switching perspective for everything I am doing at work, every task, initiative, project, goal, with a view of it&#039;s all to help others rather than pumping up self.

4) Submit everything to God in prayer and attitude, and watch how it unfolds every day.

So, there you go. No, I do not make attempts to talk about my faith or share the gospel of Jesus, but it happens naturally as I am building relationships with people that come from genuine concern for their good, rather than acheiving my own agenda.

I definitely will post more on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb- What a great question! And, yes, I do plan to write about this more in the future. The quick answer (for now, anyway!) is that I see God at work through me in my job by:</p>
<p>1) Being aware of my strengths and acknowledging the gifts and talents  I have come from God </p>
<p>2) Conscious awareness of directing those gifts and talents for His glory, whatever the outcome of the use of those gifts</p>
<p>3) Integrating in my work a sense of Helping people around me rather than achieving my own ego-driven goals and ambitions &#8211; THis alone is a big discussion to be had.  THis involves switching perspective for everything I am doing at work, every task, initiative, project, goal, with a view of it&#8217;s all to help others rather than pumping up self.</p>
<p>4) Submit everything to God in prayer and attitude, and watch how it unfolds every day.</p>
<p>So, there you go. No, I do not make attempts to talk about my faith or share the gospel of Jesus, but it happens naturally as I am building relationships with people that come from genuine concern for their good, rather than acheiving my own agenda.</p>
<p>I definitely will post more on this.</p>
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