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	<title>Comments on: How To Know When You&#8217;ve Finally Arrived</title>
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		<title>By: What Does Success Mean To You?</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-3754</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Does Success Mean To You?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] past week we have been having a discussion about success over at the Shrinking the Camel Blog.  I was looking for a good definition of success, trying to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] past week we have been having a discussion about success over at the Shrinking the Camel Blog.  I was looking for a good definition of success, trying to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Renee</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanessa Renee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the definition of success has also been on my mind the past couple of days.

here&#039;s what mine is (today):

Success is having the courage to stand up and keep walking no matter how many falls or failures you&#039;ve experienced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the definition of success has also been on my mind the past couple of days.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s what mine is (today):</p>
<p>Success is having the courage to stand up and keep walking no matter how many falls or failures you&#8217;ve experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrinkingthecamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would call that nap time rather than falling asleep in a meeting. We don&#039;t get nap-time at work, although we absolutely should.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would call that nap time rather than falling asleep in a meeting. We don&#8217;t get nap-time at work, although we absolutely should.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrinkingthecamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EXXXXXXXXXXXXXcellent!

Especially the waking up with the saliva hanging part; and also the part about history being the girl in HK&#039;s case; also the British accent you write with.. You must come back and comment again! 

Seriously, your comment on listening and being present in the moment - &quot;and isn&#039;t that all we really have?&quot; how simple - how true and profound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXXXXXXXXXXXXXcellent!</p>
<p>Especially the waking up with the saliva hanging part; and also the part about history being the girl in HK&#8217;s case; also the British accent you write with.. You must come back and comment again! </p>
<p>Seriously, your comment on listening and being present in the moment &#8211; &#8220;and isn&#8217;t that all we really have?&#8221; how simple &#8211; how true and profound.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1789</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrinkingthecamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You nailed it, Jose. I am coming to grips with this fact of never arriving. It&#039;s an ongoing, never-ending process, and the only way to deal with it is to turn to God every day, every minute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nailed it, Jose. I am coming to grips with this fact of never arriving. It&#8217;s an ongoing, never-ending process, and the only way to deal with it is to turn to God every day, every minute.</p>
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		<title>By: L.L. Barkat</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.L. Barkat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t that funny. I just recommended to an urban teacher friend that he should encourage the kids to fall asleep for a few minutes at the start of class. :) (Would you have done that, Marcus?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that funny. I just recommended to an urban teacher friend that he should encourage the kids to fall asleep for a few minutes at the start of class. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (Would you have done that, Marcus?)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, you&#039;ve chosen to tackle a very difficult topic and I admire you for it.  I don&#039;t know much about &quot;arriving&quot; - like enlightenment and balance: it&#039;s a transient, even liquid state, we move in and out of it (don&#039;t we have to leave again to arrive?  And keep leaving and arriving in the course of many journeys?) but I do know something about listening.  Listening is the highest form of respect we can pay the moment or someone. When we&#039;re able to listen completely, unconditionally, we&#039;ve arrived absolutely, we&#039;re present in that moment. And isn&#039;t that all we really have? 

Falling asleep in a meeting of any kind, regardless of how adeptly you&#039;re able to cover your ass upon awakening, isn&#039;t being anything more than boorish, I think.  Where is the power or intelligence in that?  No matter how expertly you wake up, you still have that long string of saliva hanging from your lip while the class - including the pretty girl you fancy - laughs at you.  I&#039;m afraid history, in Kissinger&#039;s case, is that girl.

But, again, I admire you for posing an important question and you raised some good points and... that&#039;s my two cents. Now I&#039;ll take a nap. Timing is (almost) everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ve chosen to tackle a very difficult topic and I admire you for it.  I don&#8217;t know much about &#8220;arriving&#8221; &#8211; like enlightenment and balance: it&#8217;s a transient, even liquid state, we move in and out of it (don&#8217;t we have to leave again to arrive?  And keep leaving and arriving in the course of many journeys?) but I do know something about listening.  Listening is the highest form of respect we can pay the moment or someone. When we&#8217;re able to listen completely, unconditionally, we&#8217;ve arrived absolutely, we&#8217;re present in that moment. And isn&#8217;t that all we really have? </p>
<p>Falling asleep in a meeting of any kind, regardless of how adeptly you&#8217;re able to cover your ass upon awakening, isn&#8217;t being anything more than boorish, I think.  Where is the power or intelligence in that?  No matter how expertly you wake up, you still have that long string of saliva hanging from your lip while the class &#8211; including the pretty girl you fancy &#8211; laughs at you.  I&#8217;m afraid history, in Kissinger&#8217;s case, is that girl.</p>
<p>But, again, I admire you for posing an important question and you raised some good points and&#8230; that&#8217;s my two cents. Now I&#8217;ll take a nap. Timing is (almost) everything.</p>
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		<title>By: e. barrett</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[e. barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think to me success comes down to one thing: obedience.  If I live a life where I am obedient to God, then that&#039;s the best I can hope for in this life. 

Of course I&#039;ll never get there, but each little victory I can claim is a major success.  

And yes, I recognize that &quot;obedience&quot; isn&#039;t a very popular word, lol.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think to me success comes down to one thing: obedience.  If I live a life where I am obedient to God, then that&#8217;s the best I can hope for in this life. </p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;ll never get there, but each little victory I can claim is a major success.  </p>
<p>And yes, I recognize that &#8220;obedience&#8221; isn&#8217;t a very popular word, lol.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jose Paclibare│Christian Business</title>
		<link>http://shrinkingthecamel.com/2009/12/10/how-to-know-when-youve-finally-arrived/#comment-1785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose Paclibare│Christian Business]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people may say they have finally arrived. But I believe for us Christians, &quot;we never arrive in Christian life. We survive spiritually only by constantly depending on God for mercy and for strengths&quot;, as Philip Yancey puts it.

Anyway, thanks for this great post. God bless.

Jose]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people may say they have finally arrived. But I believe for us Christians, &#8220;we never arrive in Christian life. We survive spiritually only by constantly depending on God for mercy and for strengths&#8221;, as Philip Yancey puts it.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for this great post. God bless.</p>
<p>Jose</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingthecamel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrinkingthecamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Maureen. I bet you&#039;ve seen a lot over there in Washington. Politicians motivated by power and ambition? Nah....  

Now tell us, what did you REALLY think of Mr. Kissinger?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Maureen. I bet you&#8217;ve seen a lot over there in Washington. Politicians motivated by power and ambition? Nah&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Now tell us, what did you REALLY think of Mr. Kissinger?</p>
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